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Loss can silence a room, yet sometimes it also hands you a new language. We sit down with artist Catherine Lamarche Horney to follow the unlikely path from widowhood to a thriving, self-taught art practice sparked by a medium’s simple instruction: paint. With zero formal training, Catherine started with one canvas—imagining her late husband Jim in the mountains he loved—and then stacked small wins into a steady craft. She shares how YouTube, trial and error, and relentless practice grew into vivid portraits, hope-forward campus murals, and a business that sustains her creativity.

What makes Catherine’s story unforgettable is the blend of intuition and discipline. She invites loved ones in spirit into her studio, follows quiet nudges that deliver uncanny details, and still shows up to do the hard, ordinary work of learning a new skill. We talk about how grief can become a license for “why not,” how saying yes builds courage, and why hope now feels less like something delicate and more like grit, muscle, and honest action. Catherine opens up about coping with a chaotic world, setting boundaries around news and outrage, and using simple anchors—music, birdsong, pets, nature, even a good video game day—to reset her nervous system and keep moving forward.

You’ll hear about reclaiming identity beyond roles, making space for joy, and letting creativity function as both ritual and roadmap. If you’re navigating loss, seeking creative renewal, or curious about the intersection of spirituality and art, this conversation offers grounded wisdom and practical encouragement. Find Catherine’s work on Etsy, Facebook, and Instagram under Lamarche Horney Art, and let her journey remind you that a blank canvas is permission, not pressure.

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SPEAKER_04

Welcome to Soul Sisters. Hey there and welcome to Soul Sisters. We just had a wonderful and heartwarming and real discussion with Catherine Lamarche Horney and her Lamarche Horney art. It really is a wonder how she came to her art. It's so inspiring. I mean, she wasn't an artist, no training at all, and now is doing this amazing, brilliant work, fully self-taught, through just the inspiration and the direct guidance of her late husband. Amazing.

Catherine’s Origin: Grief To Painting

SPEAKER_02

And I can't wait for y'all to meet Catherine, who is somebody who gives me so much inspiration and hope. And I am truly blessed to have her in my life. And I can't wait for you all to have her in your lives also. Listen in. We are here today with Catherine Lamarche Horney, who first came to painting after losing her husband when a reading with a medium revealed that he wanted her to paint to work through the pain of losing him. She uses her art to process and express complex emotions. And I'm really excited to welcome Catherine because I met her almost six years ago when we both kind of went on this journey of grief and loss recovery together. So welcome, Catherine. So excited to see you here. I'm excited to be here. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_04

Welcome, welcome.

SPEAKER_02

So, so I know you and I have spent a lot of time together. And in an earlier uh show, I just kind of mentioned you in passing, and we were excited to have you join us hopefully soon. And so here you are. And I would love for you, and I know you've spent some time with Donna also over the last few years, but I would love for you to just kind of share with people listening why you're here, kind of what your journey is. And and obviously we invited you here because I think you do have a story of hope that is really worth sharing with people. And so if you'll share what you're well, what to share with everybody.

SPEAKER_04

Well, and I and also I love your hope through word that you've shared with us. And I would I would love to see how that plays into your story as well, which is you shared hope through determination. Bravo that. So yeah, Catherine, what what has brought you to this point?

SPEAKER_00

Well, it it was determination, and I was so shattered when I lost Jim. And um, Diana knows we were in a big widow's group with like 11,000 women in it, and there were women who were like seven, 10, 14 years in and were just still so broken and didn't want to live, and were raised basically waiting to die to be with their husband, which I think is very common in the beginning. But I was terrified of going that many years in that frame of mind. And that's when I was just I was desperate. And like when I had the medium reading, and she said, he wants you to paint, and I had a painting behind me. She says, not arts and crafts stuff, a painting you like you hang on the wall, like what's behind your head. And I had never done it before. I was like, you know, at that point, she could have told me anything. I was desperate. I was like, I will, whatever she says, I'm gonna try it. So I did, and I just I started painting, and I started with him. I started with one of him. I'm I'm gonna repaint it now and see how far I've come since then. But it was it showed possibilities. It was like it wasn't great, but it wasn't too horrible. And I thought, oh, okay, well, let's keep doing this. It felt good because I was imagining where he would be, what his heaven would be. And him, I know it could be mountains. He loved the mountains. So that's I did a picture of him sitting in the mountains, and that's where the painting started, and it just went from there, and I just kept learning and doing, and and then I thought, you know, maybe I should turn this into a little business, at least, you know, have it support itself. And I thought, well, I can't do that. What am I crazy? I can't, that's nuts. And I thought, well, why not? Other people do it, why not me? So it it's a lot of why not, and just digging my heels in when I'm especially when I'm afraid. Because that's one thing nobody tells you about grief is how terrifying it is, and how you're afraid of everything and nothing all at the same time.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Right, because the ground no longer is solid under your feet. It and you the the impossible has happened. This person who is an anchor or rock in your life is not here in the same way, and uh that's so unsettling as we all well know. But Catherine, so you talk about this so casually that and so I did. I started to paint, but what but what was that? What how did did you did you work with um a teacher? Did you just trial and error? Did you YouTube?

Intuition, Signs, And Spiritual Guidance

SPEAKER_00

What did you do? It's been a combination of trial and error and looking things up on YouTube. And I I took a couple of workshops, but I didn't really find them helpful to be honest. So I just I found that doing, learning by doing is just how I move forward. So I say, you know what, I'm gonna do a painting that shows raindrops or on a window, and I'm gonna learn how to do that particular element. So I do that and then I move on. Okay, what I want to learn now. Now I'm I'm trying portraits, and I'm doing a dear friend who I've known since kindergarten, and it scares me to death. And it's it's still sitting on the easel, and I just kind of living with it and seeing if I like it or not before I give it to her. So it's just constantly growing and learning.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I've been lucky enough to kind of watch you on this journey, and I could remember the first painting you did. That was good. I mean, like we were the the women with us were impressed. Like, oh my gosh, look what Catherine did. But looking at what you're doing today, it's just crazy. You know, I I'm not an artist, but I come from a family of artists, you know, actual working artists who were amazing. Uh and your work is on their level. And I I know you said that you, you know, Jim gave you this message to paint, and then you kind of worked with him a little bit to see where he would be. But I think that a lot of what you do comes just very intuitively. And and even you gifted me with a painting when I moved across country, not knowing all the specifics of of my situation, I I guess I'll say. But what you painted was perfect.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You know, and I'll just even the boots, the detail in the boots that you put in the painting. You never saw a picture of the boots, right? But you did this amazingly. And so I do believe that Jim and others continue to work through you and make sure that, you know, the message comes through loud and clear.

SPEAKER_04

So let's dig into that a little bit more, also, um, Catherine, your um your your process of um really just believing this. I know determination, and you said I'll try anything. But really, what is it that, well, one, brought you to the medium and two, gave you that thought, well, this medium is speaking truth to me. And this is really something I should do. Because the reality is, is that most people would blow that off and go, yeah, right. And that's not real in any way, shape, or form. And even when speaking with a really great medium, there are many people who are in you know states of denial about it, or it's just it's it's too hard to let themselves sink into the believing of it and allow the truth. And we know through experience, the more you allow yourself to accept, the more evidence you get and the bigger it becomes until it's just so undeniable. That's our experience, right? So I'm gonna turn it back over to you. What would you say about all that?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, I I definitely think a lot of it is intuitive. And and yes, I talked to David while I painted that. And I I looked for pictures of those boots, and they were nowhere for me to be found. So I was like, okay, you gotta help me out here, David. And I do believe that. And I talked to Jim and I invite him and say, honey, let's paint today. What should we create? And I talked to my aunt who was an artist, and I say, you know, Aunt Tootie, I could use a little help here. I'm struggling a little bit. And I I invite other people into my process, people, people who have passed on and are on the other side waiting for us. I do bring them in and I invite them in, and and I do believe they help me. I absolutely believe that. Oh, I know that's true.

Saying Yes And Rebuilding Purpose

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I know that's true in my mediumship. I always sit sit with the intention, and I invite uh those I love who have transitioned into the the support of the work that I'm doing, and and I can tell who and what is offering and guiding and directing. And that's just beautiful and amazing. I'm so curious and interested, also because uh another medium has told me recently I need to incorporate art into my mediumship work, and and that nope, just jump in, you've got it. And I and I I have a little bit of training, and we do come from a family of artists, but nothing like that. Though I do have a picture I drew of Kenny over on my wall there, and it's pretty good. It's pretty good, I will say. But Catherine, I just on the Daw Boots, uh, it is spectacular. I saw it right after it arrived at Diana's house, and it was just everything, everything about David. And it's just it's it's beautifully done. It's beautiful on its own, but what it conveys, I can speak to the authenticity of that. It's gorgeous. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

And you know, the the other thing, and people might be thinking, like, well, what do you mean she's painting? You don't just paint, I mean, I don't even know what size uh I can't even call it a palette. That's not a palette. What do you paint on? A canvas. You know, I'm thinking like, you know, a an eight and a half by eleven, a 16 by 14 or whatever. It's not just that. You've done these huge murals, even I mean, you you do ones that are are brought out kind of to offer hope at at college campuses, but also you painted a whole two-car garage wall from top to bottom, side to side. And like that, I mean, things that I think would take months to do. You turn around in a weekend. I I don't know how that's possible.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's determination, yes, but there's something and I and I don't know how to explain, except that it is intuition, instinct, connection. It's all of it. And and practice, practice, practice, practice, of course.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, and the yes, the openness, because it's nothing. All of that is nothing without your okay, here I go.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. And that that's my part of my being determined to work through fear. I I don't I don't want to let things hold me back. And if I have to live a new life without Jim, I want it to be one with purpose and I want to learn whatever lessons I'm supposed to be here to learn. So I've had to, you know, dive into the shadows of my being and and kind of dig through and and figure out what I'm supposed to learn, where I'm lacking, where I could thrive and I'm not, out of laziness or fear or whatever, and just really do a lot of soul searching and resetting my goals and going after them when I can.

Coping With A Chaotic World

SPEAKER_02

That that determination does require a lot of saying yes. And and I know we've talked about this before, in the earlier life, not saying yes to everything, doing what was comfortable because we had our partners, right? And there was this pattern we fell into. And then all of a sudden, everything is scary, right? Because you have to do everything by yourself, even you know, both of us made huge moves and and didn't, but you've said yes to so yes to this art, yes to selling the art, yes to doing these huge murals for the college campuses, yes to playing, going back to your musical roots, right? Yes to quitting a job that wasn't serving you. I mean, things that for when we were in that other group, we saw people that were not saying yes to things, people that were shutting their door and staying inside. And and while we did that during COVID, I think it was like it's time to go, and it's time for you. You're doing all the things that Jim would want you to be doing right now. I believe so.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I think there's the thing, and I can relate, I hadn't lost a spouse in the same way, but my son, and found those same rooms and had that same response like five, ten years from now, this cannot be my story, that I am sitting in this same anguish. There has to be another path, and then finally found another group that did validate and support that, and then you know, doors opened and here we are. But I think you both would agree that there's that the grief can go in two different directions depending on your choices. You either can just sit in it and be buried by the weight of it and the impossible loss, which which still remains. Like that doesn't change, that that still exists, or you can um license, I guess. There's a license that the grief offers if you allow it, which is why not? And what have I got to lose? And here we go, because it can't I can't fall any further. So there is only up, right? So there's something really beautiful and a real blessing in that. What what do you think, Catherine?

SPEAKER_00

No, I absolutely agree with that, and I'm grateful to that group that scared me because otherwise, you know, I was very comfortable in my grief as painful as it was. It was like I had an excuse to just sit within myself and be miserable and not have to do anything about it because I had this horrible thing happen in my life. And I I'm so glad that that's not the route that I took because I I don't think I couldn't stand it. And I know that's not what Jim would have wanted for me. He he would want me to excel. He he believed in me more than I'll ever believe in myself. He thought I there was nothing I couldn't do. And I was like, oh. But yeah, I I I think and we learn to live with the grief. It doesn't ever go away. I I still sometimes just burst into tears for no good reason. And I've learned to just sit with it, feel it. And you know, I think we've all learned that the way onward is through. You have to go through it, you have to sit with those feelings, and you have to feel them, you can't bury them. So I also see people who deal with grief through drinking and drugs and or sex or you know, anything to distract themselves from those feelings, and that that does not help you at all.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, for that for that brief moment, for that that little twinkle, but that's it. And then oftentimes leaves with a residual of worse than you know, afterwards.

Identity Beyond Widowhood

SPEAKER_02

You know, and you are you already said this that the the hope lives among all this other stuff. And and the journey for you, this journey started you know, right during COVID, where the world had kind of shut down and it was a difficult time for many people, not just for those of us dealing with, you know, our loss and grief. But we got through that and we thought, okay, yay, we're through that. Now we're on to these things that we've created for ourselves. And then the world is a crazy place right now. And and I know we're all dealing with that also, but it is even with this craziness and fear and uncertainness, we hold on to that hope, right? And I and I think through all these crazy things, your determination and focus continues to give you hope, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, absolutely. And you know, we've also had to learn to comfort ourselves where we were used to this strong person bringing us comfort. And so we have to figure out how to make ourselves okay in really horrible situations. And I've really struggled with the state of the country right now, and and I've shed a lot of tears, and that that's fine. I just I go ahead and I I shed them, and then I figure out what I can do in my own life and what I can't, but I acknowledge what's going on and I I take what I can, like you know, I haven't read Nobody's Girl yet, but I am going to read it. I'm going to witness that poor woman and what she went through. And I do it in my own time, and then you know, I give myself breaks when needed. Yesterday I played a video game all day long and I did nothing else. I ran through India and I hunted for artifacts and I swung in trees and it was it was wonderful. And it was just what I needed for one day. And now I feel ready to face everything again.

SPEAKER_02

And I love that because I know that's something that you used to do, that used to enjoy video games. And all these things kind of go on the back burner, right? Because we don't have time for it. Life moves on, we're too focused on just surviving. But going back to the things that gave you joy, including your music, right? You you you played when you were young, and to go back to that and find out, oh my gosh, these are still things that make you feel alive is really important.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and they remind me that I'm not just Jim's widow.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

I'm also, you know, I'm I'm relearning who I am again as a person, you know, because again, we take on so many roles in life anyway. We're mothers, we're sisters, we're aunts, we're daughters, we're we're wives, we're everything. And we we I tend to sometimes lose myself in those roles. So it's nice to take the time to get back to my core being and the things that bring me joy personally and as an individual person, not as, you know, we're proud of our children and they bring us joy in their ways, but just by myself. What is important to me, what makes me happy, what makes me comfortable and helps me deal with things that aren't comfortable. And it's been good finding those things again.

unknown

Yeah.

Direct Connection With Jim

SPEAKER_04

Absolutely, absolutely. I understand exactly what you're talking about. I had I'll just briefly, so the producer of our show, Kirk, Kirk Lane, hi Kirk, has a uh band called the Darrells, and they play clubs in the area and private events and whatnot. And I knew he was performing uh a week or two ago and decided on impulse, you know what I want to go see because I love he does a lot of you know retro 70s, 80s, 90s music. And um his wife is a good friend of mine. I'm like, hey, you going? She was. We went, we danced, I had a couple drinks. I'm not a drinker. Two drinks for me is a huge amount. And I just listening to this music, dancing, being with friends. I sat there while I was dancing, had this awareness, oh my God, I'm having fun. This is this is just fun. Oh yeah, fun. And it was this I I mean, I just felt incredible with the simplicity of this. And that is true to who I am. I love to dance. I love music, I love being with people I love. And so um, what a simple way to embrace life. And I still feel like so proud. Hey, I did that. We should. You absolutely should be proud. So let's go back a second to because um, for many people listening, they'll be like, what do you mean you talk to Jim? You said earlier talk to Jim. And I think many people who lose people will will talk, but not expectation that they're going to receive anything back, right? And I know that you're talking about you're talking to Jim and you are hearing back from him. Tell us about that, tell us a little bit about that. Journey. How did that come to be? And what is that for you?

SPEAKER_00

Jim and I had a very tight bond. We were the type of couple. I guess a lot of people might even call us codependent. We did everything together. If we could have been together 24-7, we would have been. That's how we like spending our time. So to me, it was not really a surprise when after he passed, I heard his voice. I even I saw him. One of the things that we did for each other when the other was feeling down, we would do a silly dance. And I was out in the garage, I was outside smoking. That's back when I was smoking. And all of a I was just, I was crying, I had the radio on, and then I he appeared before me and he was dancing in the middle of my garage. And I just sat there very still, and I was afraid to blink or move that he would disappear. Yeah. And it went on for quite a few seconds. And it just um, I was like, that's it. Okay, he is here. I believe it. And I'll hear him every now and then. I'll I'll look, you know, you we walk past a mirror and we're getting older, and you look at it and you go, you know, who is that? And then I heard his voice go, that's my beautiful wife. And I I hear him. It's not all the time, and I can't have you know long conversations with him, but he pops in when he can and he lets me know that he's there and he's with me and he's watching.

SPEAKER_04

And I I think he looks over me. I know he does. I've had the great um blessing of being able to sit with you, Catherine, and and read also. And I'm and I know that I've met Jim as well in that circumstance. And I I know this guy that you're talking about, and I've felt that love that he feels for you. And I know that that connection between you two is so deep and strong and easy, is is I remember how he presented to just so easy, easy to fall into each other.

Inspiration, Advocacy, And Hope As Grit

SPEAKER_02

And and I just want to say, going back to this determination, you you said you can't have long conversations with him. And I just want to add, yet, because I think you know, and you and I do talk about this also, that with the focus and the determination, that is certainly possible. And like you said, you've said yes to all these other things and finding out who you are aside from Jim's wife, right? Or Jim's widow. And so it's it there's been five years of let's focus on who I am and what do I need, and what kind of work do I want to do, and how do I want to show up in the world? And I think that long conversations are still coming.

SPEAKER_00

I believe that too. I I can see that for sure.

SPEAKER_04

So, Catherine, in um the world today, those among us here, who is it that is inspiring you and supporting your determination?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you know, it's really just anybody who is standing up for vulnerable people at this point because I don't know what personally to do yet. I haven't figured out how I can help in any way. So when I see other people standing up for vulnerable people, I just am automatically drawn and just in awe of them and so proud that they exist. And they inspire me to start thinking about what I can do, even if it's just expressing how I feel about what's going on.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah. And and through your uh art, certainly, that that is a way. I would love to walk in one of those protests with uh Catherine Lamar-Horney um banner, right?

SPEAKER_00

And oh, you've got my brain just to go in.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I think of uh Mary Engelbright, um, the artist, and you know, and most people know uh Mary's work and a lot of her um efforts these days are in that very thing and putting out pins and posters and flyers to support um because we all do, we do what we can. We do what we can. And together, the millions of us who see this and feel this, together we create the change.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and it is millions, whether people want to know that or not.

Rapid Fire: Joys And Influences

SPEAKER_04

It is absolutely, it is absolutely millions, and oftentimes it is the power mongers who are loud, right? Sure. Who are loud, yeah. So um onward we go, and and uh we know that the universe is constantly, constantly, constantly moving towards order, right? Moving towards alignment. This is like universal law. So that is happening despite the chaos that we see. That is what is at work constantly.

SPEAKER_00

And I still believe that year of the the fire horse is is really going to bring about some good things. And we we have a new year, January 1st New Year, but we haven't we don't have our lunar new year yet. That's still to come, and I still think it's gonna bring magnificent things. And I, you know, hope used to be so pretty and soft in my earlier years, but now hope is she's she's tough, she's a warrior, she's you know, she's grit and and determination and determination, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, exactly. Amen, sister. I I want that on a t-shirt. I'm create it, please. I can go make those shirts. Everyone, watch, watch Catherine's sight, and then you can jump in. That's beautiful. Go ahead, sis.

SPEAKER_02

That's okay. A couple a couple things ago, but uh, what about? I I think probably it's time for us to jump into some of our rapid fire questions. Let's do it. This is where Catherine, we are going to just kind of throw some questions at you and really the intent that you just share the first thing that comes to mind. You don't have to think about it. If you feel like you want to think about it, that's okay. But we'll just throw some questions at you and see how you respond. But if you were walking onto the stage collecting this big uh award you're getting for your artwork or or you know, just just your your sheer presence, what would you be your walk-in song? Music blaring. What do you hear?

SPEAKER_01

Oh awesome.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I listen to and I need to be inspired to get on stuff.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that is the perfect song then.

SPEAKER_01

All right, what book changed you?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I don't know that a book has changed me. I can tell you that um my favorite book is The Historian by Elizabeth Costava, I think is her name. I don't know, you have to look that up to be sure. But it's um one that Jim and I both enjoyed together and we took turns reading it because this is before Kindle and that sort of thing. So it's just um it had a little bit of Dracula and a lot of travel and a father-daughter relationship. It was just it just had a lot of elements that touched me.

SPEAKER_02

I I like making my list of books that everybody likes. So I'm I'm gonna look very good. Um, what movie lives rent-free in your brain?

SPEAKER_00

Fried Green Tomatoes. Yes, my absolute favorite, and that's another thing. I I will yell, Tawanda, when I need some superpower to get through something.

SPEAKER_04

Absolutely. I gotta go back and rewat rewatch that. Great book, also. Yeah. What did you love doing as a kid that you love doing to this day?

SPEAKER_00

Being in nature. I would follow storm drains and see where they took me and play in the woods and climb trees. And I still, that is my happy place.

SPEAKER_02

And and so I just need to add, since I've known you for these last several years, Catherine is a true life snow white. She plays and the animals come to her. Not not only her dog and cat, but the deer and the raccoons and the squirrels, sadly, the snakes also. All of the animals wait for Catherine to feed them. If she runs out of food, they will make sure that that she knows she needs to get, you know, some pictures. And it is like Snow White, just you know, out by the wishing well with all the animals surrounding her.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That's so great. I know. I think I've seen a couple of photos of that of the animals all gathered around.

SPEAKER_00

I love it. So I call them my outdoor babies. I tell my dog and cat, I'll be back. I have to go feed the outdoor babies now. It's their turn. That's so sweet.

Where To Find Catherine’s Art

SPEAKER_02

What in your world is lighting you up right now?

SPEAKER_01

My animals.

SPEAKER_00

They get me up in the morning. I I I don't want to get out of bed, and I look and I see their sweet little faces, and I'm just like, oh, I can't believe I have you. You you make me so happy, you bring me so much joy. Good morning, babies. And I sit on the floor and they each are on one side licking me, and and we just we make a big deal of starting the day together. We just that's how I like to start my day.

SPEAKER_04

I love that. I I love we make a big deal out of starting our day together. That's beautiful.

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

All right, Catherine, what color is hope?

SPEAKER_00

Well, as an artist, I see it as white. I think it is doesn't have any color. We add the color.

SPEAKER_03

I like it.

SPEAKER_00

We we decide what color hope is at any given moment. It can be multiple colors, it can be just red, or it can be just yellow, or it can be a rainbow of colors. It at any time it changes constantly.

SPEAKER_02

I like that. And I'm looking out my window at all white snow, and it is very hopeful, and it's just like, ooh, it could be anything from here, right? Just like canvas. So um, what does hope sound like?

SPEAKER_00

Bird singing. I love bird song. I even have fake bird song in the house for when I get stressed out or anything. And I, you know, some people they they like to hear ocean waves and stuff like that. I have bird song and I turn it on, and I have birds singing in the house, and I find it just so peaceful and calming.

SPEAKER_04

That's a great idea. I think I'm gonna add bird song to my mind. That is super cool. I love it. Okay, I'm gonna find that. Catherine, so much fun talking with you, really. And I love hearing your story, and I feel so inspired by you. How can people find you and your art in the world? Where do they go?

Closing And Community Call

SPEAKER_00

I'd go to um, I have an Etsy shop, and it's Lamar's Horny Art. And Lamar's Horny, it's it's my last name, it's my maiden name, and and Jim's last name. It's what I chose when we got married, chose to hyphenate. So I wanted him to remain part of it. So I used the full last name. And I have an Etsy shop. I'm also on Facebook and Instagram.

SPEAKER_04

So pretty easy to find.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, very easy to find. There aren't a lot of Lamar's hornies out there in the world. Actually, I think there's just me.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and I I wanted to say that like that determination again, not knowing it how to use Instagram and Facebook as a professional and Etsy and just figuring it all out. And I know down the road you'll end up with TikTok and who knows what other things are coming out, but you you'll you'll probably be everywhere. But right now you said Etsy, Facebook, and Instagram, all uh Lamar Shorney art. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Perfect. Well, everyone, check her out. She really is quite something, but more than anything, hopefully an inspiration to all of you that you too can find these amazing pathways through determination and just putting one foot in front of the other. There is always that hope, and that hope takes action. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Catherine, for sharing this time with us. What a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. It's been a joy. So, everyone, like, follow, review, share. Um, we welcome your feedback. And hey, what's your own hope through? Thanks for being with us.

SPEAKER_03

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SPEAKER_04

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SPEAKER_04

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