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Life Beyond Death: The Zach's House Story
What if the death of a loved one isn't the end of your relationship, but rather the beginning of something profoundly different? Martin and Krista Anderton discovered this truth in the most heart-wrenching way when their 20-year-old son Zach died in a car accident. Just when they thought their world had ended, something miraculous happened on the third day—they found Zach, or more accurately, he found them.
Their journey from devastation to connection unfolds with stunning moments that defy conventional explanation. Fingerprints appearing on screens when no one is touching them. Messages arriving at exactly the right moment. A camper van purchase guided by their son from beyond, with costs matching his unknown life insurance policy down to the last few dollars. These aren't coincidences, but evidence of what happens when we open ourselves to a deeper understanding of consciousness.
What makes this conversation special is Martin and Krista's background—they were self-described "ultra-competitive, material-focused people" before their loss, not spiritual seekers. Their transformation came through direct experience, not belief. "We don't believe, we know," Martin emphasizes, highlighting the distinction that changed everything for them. This knowing led them to create Zach's House, a gathering place providing support for bereaved people through mindfulness, health and well-being, consciousness, and energy healing.
Through their story, we explore how grief itself—which they describe as "love on"—can actually heighten our connection rather than block it. We discover how each person connects differently with loved ones who have passed, whether through meditation, signs, spontaneous communications, or simply remaining open. Most importantly, we learn that relationships don't end with physical death; they transform into something new that can be even more expansive.
Whether you're navigating grief, curious about consciousness beyond the physical, or simply drawn to stories of extraordinary human resilience, this conversation will leave you questioning the boundaries you thought existed between life and death. As Krista beautifully puts it, "Hope equals knowing"—knowing that we are never truly separated from those we love.
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Welcome to Soul Sisteries, full of so much hope as we talked about connectedness and the knowing that love never dies and that our loved ones are still with us even after they transition out of this physical world.
Speaker 1:Just as we know, we discovered that their beautiful Zach, who transitioned six years ago, is here with them now is here with us as we have this conversation. What I love about these two, and what I think is going to resonate with so well with everybody, is they are incredibly down to earth, very real, so identifiable, and, gosh, I can't wait for everyone to hear their story and their journey. It's just so. It's a wonderful and just inspiring thing.
Speaker 2:Yep, let's get to it. We are here today with Martin and Krista Anderton, the founders of Zach's House, a gathering place that provides support for bereaved people. It focuses on four pillars of support mindfulness, health and well-being, consciousness and energy healing. While the organization started in the UK, it has since provided support and education around the globe. To share a bit, their story with Saks House began on April 17th 2019, the day their only child passed away at just 20 years old following a car accident.
Speaker 2:Their world completely crumbled that day, and they had no idea how they would get through this so-called life. The first couple of days were absolute agony, and they were living in what they considered hell on earth. On the third day, though, something miraculous happened they found Zach, or rather, he found them. He has continued to show them, through signs and synchronicities, that we never die and he's still right by their side, helping them to grow and become who they set out to be and carry on doing what they agreed to do in their soul plan. They understand how deep grief feels and what it is like to have someone you love so dearly transition before you. They also now know that there is a whole other world out there that is sometimes confusing and hard to explain, but as they have learned more about the spiritual realm and where Zach is, they have been able to keep their relationship alive and continue to communicate with him. He is an amazing soul and has changed the lives of so many while he was here physically, and he continues to do so in spirit.
Speaker 2:Just a year later, following my own deep losses, I found Zach, which is a story for another day, but he led me to Zach's house and to Martin and Krista. Martin says that he finds hope through direct connection and Krista through interconnectedness, and we are certainly going to let them talk about that while we're here today. And it's not lost on Donna and I that today is the anniversary of Zach's transition six years ago. So welcome Martin and Krista, and we are so happy that you agreed to spend some of your day with us.
Speaker 1:And welcome Zach very much here as well. Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Thank you for having us.
Speaker 4:Thank you for having all of us, and Zach thanks you too.
Speaker 2:Good good, good. So I would love if you wouldn't just kind of share. I know I shared kind of a really small background of Zach's house, but I would love to have you share the journey of what got you to where you are here today, in 2025.
Speaker 4:Do you want me to?
Speaker 2:go first. Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 4:Okay, so you mentioned that the first two days were living hell. Everybody understands that. The third day that we, we, we reconnected with Zach, if you like. Maybe that's where we should, we should probably start. So the first couple of days undescribbable. But immediately Krista wanted to go to the crash site and she was insistent to do this. I didn't want to do that.
Speaker 3:I didn't want to go. Let me throw this in there. I didn't want to go. I felt compelled and I didn't understand at that time why I was so adamant. And Zach was telling me but I didn't realize at the time he was telling me get to the crash site. You need to get to the crash site. I didn't want to go, but I needed to go and we needed to go. No, you didn't, andrew.
Speaker 4:So the reason that we didn't want to go was because we're a family from motorsport and so Zach was a professional driver and throughout all of our lives we've been involved with motorsport, which means we've seen lots of accidents. And so the reason that we didn't want to go to the crash site was because it wouldn't take much for us to reconstruct that in our minds because the resistance to us going probably. But we did, as Krista said, and as soon as we got out of the car we went our separate ways.
Speaker 3:we were very quiet and we milled around and my mom was here as well, so my mother over, so she, so there was the three of us. So that's important because there's three people that went and we all went separate ways.
Speaker 4:It was a very personal time.
Speaker 3:I suppose yeah.
Speaker 4:And probably 20 minutes later, we reconvened at the car and as we reconvened at the car, all three of us almost simultaneously said sax with us, right, and we could feel it. Yeah, so, if you, if you pause that for a second, um, that was the start of our journey. Really, we were not spiritual people before that, right, we were ultra competitive, um, very material, focused, pretty typical people I suppose.
Speaker 4:But we were ultra competitive, um, and so this yeah and so this was this, this us saying zach's withers was very alien to us, but it was immediate. So we got in in the car and Zach came home with us. So those first two days when it was this living hell, people would come and visit us and everybody's experienced that Tell me about the car you forgot about.
Speaker 3:I will.
Speaker 4:And it was like icy cold. The house was like ice, it was dark and depressing and it was awful and we could sense that and our house has never been that way, no when physically here right since came over.
Speaker 3:It was. It's just a lovely energy in this house and it has been, except for those two days yeah yeah, it was awful, awful, awful, and it wasn't just the grief speaking right it was he is. He wasn't here yeah, right he was waiting, I think, but yeah, he just wasn't. It was, it was only for two days.
Speaker 4:It was like the house was in mourning as well right, yeah, the house has, um, has a consciousness to it. Yeah, and the house was, was in mourning. It says it's. It's as simple as that. Zach comes home three days later and the house is immediately back to its old self, back to being alive again yeah, but commented on it when they, his friends, came over those back to normal again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, zach's not here, like you know, but we knew he was. Well right, he's here. Yes, why?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, you know so that there was the first hint that was, that was the, the ember, if you like, just to get us, get us going on spark. Uh, what chris wanted me to mention, was really I love this bit we're back.
Speaker 4:I know we're ploughing backwards and forwards, but you'll see why. So when we were getting into the car at the crash site now, the car is special, I won't go into the details of that, but it's special and it has a particular mode on it which is called race mode. Remember, we come from motorsport. This mode cannot be set and then you get out of the car and you get back in and it's still in this mode. It reverts back to normal. So you have to make a mechanical movement to put it back into this mode, right? So when we got in the car after we'd been at the crash site and started the car, it started in that, that race mode can't be done.
Speaker 4:Cannot mechanically be done, but it did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we called the manufacturer.
Speaker 4:Called the manufacturer a few weeks later just to figure out if there was, and they're like no, no, you're mistaken, it can't be done.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's it. It started off. No, we're not mistaken, right yeah?
Speaker 4:So all of us. So, as soon as we went to the crash site, from that moment on, zach has been leading us and continues to do so. That's how we see it. So we see in normal life you would say that you know the parent is purpose is to help their, their kids, develop.
Speaker 4:Well, we think it's the reverse, not in our situation you know and actually, if you, if you reflect on it, there's it doesn't work that way. We, we have the perception that, um, you know, as parents, we are developing our kids but, on reflection, even if Zach hadn't gone home, and now we understand, zach is the leader and the parent. Really, you know, we can see that in all of our lives, where it's actually the actions that our kids do that develops us. Yes, yes, we see that in the physical and now we see it in spades with zach and not needing a physical body yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2:So, and don, I know you're going to jump in too, but so day three, day three, there's this connection with zach. He so I, I know not, but I'm going to say physically he physically went home with you and I know he's been with you since. I know if you go on a trip he's with you. I know if you go to the track he's with you. I know when you're at home he's with you. What happened between day three and again? I met you just a year later, when Zach's house was up and running and already providing support to so many people. What happened in that year to have you create this place that really provides hope and strength for so many people?
Speaker 3:I'd say it's what happened to us. We thought we have to share this because there's got to be others out there who have either experienced similar situations or have done it, didn't know what, what to do, didn't know how to to talk about it, where to go, you know, because you can't really well, you can speak about it in the, in the general public and population. It is getting better, yes, but it's still very hard at lots of places. So we thought we need a place. It's like a hub for anyone. You know, any groups. We just wanted to bring everyone together and connect people. You know, not necessarily zach's house, but different places, different people, bringing everyone together and and helping people.
Speaker 3:While we're here along the way, I've got one story that I would love to share and we we both know this lady. I won't mention her, but she was medium and she right after Zach passed, I thought I said to Martin we need her to come over and come to the house, and I'm going to bring his friends over because they need to experience this, they need to know, or I hope that they will know. I didn't want to force it on him hope that they would understand and know Zach is still here and all their loved ones were still here. Yeah, so she came over and there was about 40 45 of his friends that came there and we set up the room downstairs with all the chairs look like a wedding.
Speaker 4:It did look like a wedding.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and just prior to this, we brought zach's race car home and it's literally, it's literally on the wall here five feet away from his right.
Speaker 3:Yes, a huge race car. Yeah, it's bolted, it's up on the wall, and so we did that because we thought that that can never go anywhere. It wouldn't we need it, so we put it on the wall and then we had his race helmet made into a cake, because this was for his birthday. I just remembered it was October 17th and so we had a birthday cake made out of his race helmet. It looked identical to his race helmet. Those were the very important points. So she comes in and she starts reading and doing amazing with the kids and brings not just Zach but you know, one of the guy's grandparents through. It was great and he was kind of in shock because I don't think a lot of these guys, because a lot of them are race drivers and they really were like nah, nah, but you can't deny it when someone comes through and starts country western dancing, your granddad, and he's like, oh my God, I can't believe that. And then Zach and a lot of others came through, which was it was a really fun night. It was the next night we had.
Speaker 3:We always have people in the house with us, especially in the beginning. Martin, myself and one of Zach's friends girlfriends was sitting next to me. We were all down in one of the rooms. Martin was in the corner in a chair. I was next to him on the couch and then Zach's girlfriend friend's girlfriend was next to me on the couch.
Speaker 3:I had his laptop on my lap and for me, I need to hear and see Zach. I always did, from the time he passed. I know people have a hard time with that and that's because we all agree differently, but I needed to hear him and I needed to see him. So I looked all the time. I was looking at his photos. This was his um computer and it's a touch screen and when you touch the screen with your finger, you see the fingerprint. Yeah, so it was sitting on my lap and I was scrolling through his photos and it was on his race car and I it just stopped. It was stopped there and I started talking to Charlotte and Martin and we were just chatting and all of a sudden a fingerprint on the screen went from one to two, two to four, and none of us were like oh, oh, my god, do you see this, do you see this? And none of us have our phones don't think about you know because you didn't think, you never think gonna happen.
Speaker 3:Why now I do, but I didn't then?
Speaker 4:so we.
Speaker 3:We didn't want to move because I thought, oh my gosh, what's going on? So, two, two, zach kept touching the screen. You could see where he was touching it and he made his image of his race car huge, across the whole screen in large depth, and I was like oh my God. And then touched it again and shrunk it back to normal size. Now, if you hadn't seen this stuff you would not believe it, but we all three saw it. That's key, yes. And then, when it was normal size, one finger you can see the one finger on the screen touching it starts scrolling through the pictures. These pictures start moving until he got to his race helmet, did the same thing with his race helmet and made it enlarged it, shrunk it back down. All the while. We're seeing his fingerprints, so you can see him touching.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, he's touching the screen. He's right here, no doubt Scrolled right back, he's no doubt scrolled right back yeah, no doubt scrolled right back the picture of his race car and left it. Wow, the next day after we had the meeting yes party for his birthday, had the cake made of his helmet and just put the race on the wall yeah what he knew and was letting us know, know about the cake race car here, and I'm going to show you I'm right here by doing this absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean bravo, zach, and it's, it's glorious and beautiful and wonderful. Here's the thing that I want to ask you, because this is the, this is the challenge for so many, and you know that I live in this world as well as you do and I understand all that you're talking about. But the challenge that so many come up against, despite this incontrovertible evidence, I mean, it is just so clear and apparent to us, but yet so many will still take that and doubt, doubt themselves. It's coincidence, it's whatever, whatever it is. And of course, then there's the whole realm of individuals who find something dark in all of that, which God bless but yeah, exactly, we always say that's their journey.
Speaker 1:That's their journey, exactly. So what do you think it is about you? What is it that allowed you, or what activity of you allowed you, to embrace and say yes, and agree and accept that all of this is so? I mean, I get it and of course it's so, but I'd love you to talk a little on that.
Speaker 4:So I'll be controversial now. So I think religion plays its place.
Speaker 4:And I think religion creates faith and that faith is supposed to see you through the hard times because you're going to believe, you're going to trust and it's that trust and belief that's the hug, right? Well, that's all been achieved by somebody telling you that, either verbally, or you've read the book, but it is all indirect and I'm not dismissing it in any way, but that wasn't enough for us. Right, right and Zach knew that and I'm not dismissing it in any way, but that wasn't enough for us, right, right, and Zach knew that.
Speaker 4:So we needed to be able to experience things, for us to, quite frankly, remain here, right, we needed that.
Speaker 3:Somebody saying he's fine, just didn't cut it the thing that used to not irritate this isn't the right word but the thing that used to to to wind. That rubbed me the wrong way. Oh, he's in heaven and I'm like heaven's right here. Oh bless him. Or oh bless you. And I just thought, well, oh bless you Because you don't know.
Speaker 1:Bless you yeah.
Speaker 3:And I'll send you love and everything else, but it's you know you don't know, here's another one.
Speaker 4:Rest in peace.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that one.
Speaker 4:Why is he resting?
Speaker 3:They are resting.
Speaker 1:We know our boys are so not resting.
Speaker 2:Everything I know about zach he doesn't rest, I don't know if that's a vocabulary you see so.
Speaker 4:So the concept is alien, the concept doesn't sit well it's like well, why would he need to rest? I don't understand not resting right so when?
Speaker 3:let us rest.
Speaker 4:No. When you start to get those personal connections and you acknowledge them, that strengthens them. Yes, strengthening of them makes you become more aware, and the more you become aware, the easier it is to connect. And all of a sudden you have a new relationship. Right, it's not the relationship you had before, it's a new relationship and it's, quite frankly, it's fuller.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:Because you're able to connect on different levels than you could connect before. Yes, really, all you had was your actions, um, be those verbal or anything else. That's how we communicate in the physical. We're very limited in how we can communicate here, whereas when you don't need that and you learn how to expand that, your communication, that the bandwidth grows significantly yeah, and you communicate better that's, yeah, it is beautiful and profound.
Speaker 1:Thank you for all that. Absolutely to that. I remember, um, you know, kenny had not been, uh, gone long and um, just a few months after zach's or stories coincide I did have this history of I heard things, I saw things and what, but I? The difference for me post Kenny was I learned to be intentional about it. I wasn't before that time, but even so, even having that, I remember anguishing Kenny had not been gone and long and just anguishing. Honey, honey, I need I just like I need to. I need to know, I need to know that you are here. I just need to know that you are here. And within moments, he I'm not doing anything with my phone, my hands are not on my phone there's a my phone popped up an old text message of his in which he said literally yes, I'm here, I love you, yeah, yeah, exactly that, exactly to what you're speaking on, like, and it was like, from that moment, that's right. Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3:Okay, let's go let's beautiful it's beautiful, yeah yeah, I mean, it's sorry no, go ahead it's still for a lot of people and for all of us, it's still, even though we categorically know I categorically know no more. Yeah, we, we don't die, our physical bodies go, but they're just the vessels that carry us. Yes, yeah, we still go on and we're just the same.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But it's still really difficult. So I don't want people to think that we don't still grieve. Of course we do in our own ways.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I still miss the physical. Oh my God, I miss that so ways. Yeah, I still miss the physical. Oh my God, I miss that so bad. Yes, some days, no matter how much my vibration is higher or how much I cry, and we do meditations and sound healing and we have more chats, and you still are going to go through that. Yeah, but knowing for me that zach is still right here, that's what gets me through every day breathe every day.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if that that might help someone else I don't know yeah I think the um, the, the reality that when you don't have a physical body, you can still communicate in this reality. Yeah, makes you better challenge sometimes what this reality is yeah because if we perceive that this physical reality requires things in the physical to be present, if you like, but then you prove that you don't need a physical body to be present in this physical, rather than, what's this all about?
Speaker 4:yeah you know, you start to ask these really deep questions, and I'll speak for myself I wasn't a particularly deep person before that went home pretty shallow and superficial but you know that that's where the education comes, that's that's where him being the leader for us comes home, we think of things on a completely different level.
Speaker 3:We talked about stuff and I used to joke with him in the kitchen because I had a food business, so he used to be able to work with me sometimes when he wasn't racing or working on the car or whatever it was doing. I remember I stood there one time and I said Zach, I'm laughing because I was so immature, he was so much more mature than I ever was and we were laughing and I said you should be the dad. And I remember saying, zach, you should be the dad, you're so much more mature. And he would just laugh His arm around me and, looking back on that, he was the dad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So much to pass on to you both. And I know for myself. I was kind of introduced to Zach in a class I was taking with a medium to learn how to connect with both Kenny and my partner, you know. And Zach showed up and I remember being like, well, who is this Zach kid? I have a Zach, a nephew who's alive in this world, but I didn't know who this kid was that was showing up hanging out with David and Kenny and I thought what is going on? And that's where I met Zach, Right, yes, and the very next week was when somebody told me about you guys and this Zach's house and maybe I need to look up Zach's house and I went oh, this is exactly why Zach was coming to me, because I was supposed to find you somehow.
Speaker 2:So part of my journey, and I know it's where you both have found hope. Martin, you said, through direct connection and your personal experience, Krista, through the interconnectedness and the consciousness, that you're all one, that we're all one. So I would love to hear each of you I know it's a little different for each of you I would love to hear you speak about that a little bit how you find hope in that connectedness.
Speaker 4:I'll give you a story. I'll make it quick, that's my thing.
Speaker 2:I like your stories, Martin.
Speaker 3:I like the stories All right, but you guys won't know this. But there's a standing joke in Zach's house. On a Friday night we have a chat, especially between a couple of the gals, the members that are in there. We now go Zach, martin, sorry, zach, zach's laughing. Martin always says Zach's laughing. Martin always says I'll make it quick. His stories are never very quick.
Speaker 4:I'll do my best. I'll do my best to make it brief.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:So it's. I'm going to roll the clock back now. I want to say it's day four. I think it was day four or day five after Zach had gone home or didn't actually go anywhere. That after Zach had gone home or didn't actually go anywhere, and a friend of his it's a convoluted thing, this, but a friend of his who had been a soldier in Afghanistan, who got blown up and had terrible PTSD and just a horrendous story pulls through our gates in his new camper van and knocks on the door and says I want to show you my camper van.
Speaker 4:This was his way of dealing with it for himself and this was his way of, you know, softening it for us. I suppose the last thing I wanted to do was go look at this camper van. I couldn't care less about a camper van, right, but he was insistent. So a friend of mine, myself and this guy walked out to have a look at his camper van, okay, and the two of them were looking at it and I was there, just a zombie, because we are a zombie at that point right of them were looking at it and I was there just a zombie, because we are a zombie at that point, right. Um, and all of a sudden I heard, zach, you need one of these, right, and it was in my head and I thought, oh, my god, so this is what grief feels like. This is the next stage, because I'm trying to figure this out and I am going nuts, because I can actually hear him in my head, right, I could hear him in my head louder than I could hear these two guys with physical bodies yeah, and actually I lost the train of the conversation because that was in my ear talking you need one of these, your mom needs to go away on the weekends, you need one of these, and blah, blah, blah which is how Zach
Speaker 3:is he will not, he won't, he won't stop until yeah until you listen.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you gotta listen, so a few minutes later we are going back in the house and as we walk in the house, I hear him say I'll buy you one, right. And I in my mind I said, zach, you can't buy me one, you're dead. And it was a strange, surreal thing, right. I couldn't understand what was going on, but that was it right. An hour or two later, the mail comes. It's weird how automatic you still become when you're going through this stuff. And the mail came and Krista got the mail mail right and she opened something that was really distressing and handed it to me, right yeah, I couldn't.
Speaker 4:I was like I can't deal with this right you need to take it two hours after he said he was going to buy the van. Yeah, two hours right, and it's a letter from his employer and he's very upset that, you know. Uh, they awful for Zach, but you know Zach had a life insurance policy with work and they needed our information to be able to, you know, cover it in goosebumps.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we didn't have a life insurance policy. Didn't know, Never even answered our heads. And when I read it I'm like that's because I didn't know about the van story. At this time I'm crying and thinking I don't want this money?
Speaker 4:no, pointless, it's just number on a piece of paper.
Speaker 3:What, yeah, I don't know you take it yeah yeah then he told me the story and then, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4:Bobby, I need to think the story's over, but it's not right so we didn't know anything about these camper vans. So a week or two later, still in a daze, you've got to do something zach wanted.
Speaker 3:Sorry, martin no, go ahead he wanted a camper van when he was here physically. Martin knew that when we used to go to the racetrack stuff we at that point because we spent everything we had on his racing. We couldn't afford a race a camper van so we bought every cent, went into his racing. So he never got a camper van physically when he was here he's got one now, but anyway, that's besides but sorry, martin so we start this quest of getting a camper van.
Speaker 4:We didn't know anything about it and so we went to all these places. It turns out there is a myriad of choices and features on a camper van I hadn't got a clue.
Speaker 4:So we're driving around to all these different places over the next few weeks and we didn't know, not that it mattered, but we didn't know what the value of that was.
Speaker 4:It wouldn't have mattered if it was a penny right that we would have bought a camper van, because that's what we had to do, right, important.
Speaker 4:We didn't know the value of it and the reason for that is because, um, there was a bit of uh, on a side note, there was a little bit of a on a side note, there was a little bit of a struggle with the employer because his, his death certificate had his job but also professional race driver and that must've been a bit of a challenge for the insurance. So this is longer right and there's. It's important to say that because we're fishing around trying to find this camper van, anyway, one of these trips out, camper van anyway, um, one of these trips out, we finish up going a five hour drive to the same place that this, this jason, the guy that had his camper van abroad. So we finish up going to this, the same location, five hours away, uh, to have a look at what their camper vans were like, right, and on that particular occasion, his sister ella, who is incredibly close to Zach, was with us on the trip and at this point, yeah very, very close right.
Speaker 4:And now that we get there and Ella's like hey, has Zach said anything?
Speaker 3:because now we know and I'm like, no, no, and we at this point, ella and I, we were all looking and for me and a baby, blue and white one, and I'm like, oh, I love this, I love this one, but I'm like Zach wouldn't have this.
Speaker 4:And then so I walk away and as I walk away from from the girls and the van a moment later, it's just like work. I see him again and he's like hey, it's the red one two rows back. Hmm, this place is packed. There must be 60, 70 of these camper vans. They all look the same and they're all next to each other, really close together, right packed into this very small space so you can't see a red one. They're all multi-colors but no red. I walk two rows back and one over and there's a red one. It's the only red one, right. So as I walk towards the red one, um, the sales guy comes over, right. So, oh, we don't get many of these, and it's a bit unusual inside. It's just like a race car inside. So we bought it easiest sale has ever.
Speaker 4:Got right, got all these features, wouldn't know, wouldn't know what they are anyway, right? No? So we go in to do the paperwork right, and there it's a little office and there's two chairs in front of his desk and there's three of us. So Krista and I don't want to sit down, and Ella sits down on one of these chairs and we're looking, um, so we're viewing the room in, we're viewing from the doorway into this room, um, and the, the sales guy, is facing ella and and facing us and waiting in the background, and then he's there sitting next to her. He's sitting there. He's made of millions of little dots is the best way to describe it.
Speaker 4:The best way I could describe it would be like static on an old TV.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And he's got his arm, he's got one leg and half his body on the chair and the other leg and the other half of his body are in the space between the two chairs and he's got his arm across the back of her chair and he's there.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 4:So I called to bought the pieces well, I didn't right yeah, we have to go back for the van a couple of weeks later. Long story. By this point we now know what the value of his settlement of his thing is right, which again is important, but it is for the story. So we go back and it's a couple of thousand less. Excuse me, his settlement's a couple of thousand more than the price of the van.
Speaker 4:Okay. And then the guy goes do you need a bit of this? And we're like, yeah, we need all that, whatever that is. So all of a sudden he adds that on and now we're very close to his figure and the deal is finished. And so we get in the van and he turned on, goes I'm so sorry, I can't believe it. There's no fuel in it. So if you give us a little bit, we'll. We'll go put some fuel in. I'm like it doesn't matter, we'll just go down the road and gas it up. So we do that, and after we put the fuel in, there's about five pounds left from what the value of his second was. So he, he know exactly new so how is that possible, right?
Speaker 4:how can that be? Yeah?
Speaker 2:yeah, there is no coincidence. There's nothing in yes. Yes.
Speaker 3:I don't believe in coincidence.
Speaker 4:There isn't.
Speaker 3:No, you know.
Speaker 4:So that's what started Zach's house. Really. That was it was. That was really it. It was the absolute confirmation that there can't be coincidences. We don't understand what's going on, but the reason that we are OK is because we now complete. We don't believe, we know, yeah. So we've got to believe. We haven't got a faith, we've got to know, and it's the knowing, that's the difference so let, and it is.
Speaker 1:It is, it's the knowing and I know in the work that I do as a medium, that's it. It's to give, it's to give people that validation, that knowing to move from the hope, the belief, to the knowing. It changes everything in this journey, doesn't it? So what would you say to? You know the number of individuals who say and you spoke on this a little bit earlier, I'll say that but what would you say to the number of individuals who say well know, I don't see my son sitting in the chair there. I don't have, I don't have. This isn't true for me, so why you and not me? What do you?
Speaker 1:have anything to say to that?
Speaker 3:yeah, I was gonna say we have a lot of that in our friday night. Yeah, because you know, we all get different things, I think, for sorry, what I? I think we all grieve differently. Yes, and we all get the signs. Yeah, I just think sometimes we don't maybe aren't aware of it, because either we're in such deep grief, but that doesn't mean the signs aren't there. Yeah, I just think sometimes I speak for myself as well. Yeah miss them because we just Is so strong sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Sometimes, when we're in such deep grief, we often get the signs, even more so because I think and we have this chat as well we're closer to them in such deep grief, because grief is just love on. So the more you grieve, the more you've loved and so they feel that love even though you know it is, we call it grief. If you want to label something and oftentimes that gets misconstrued the name, the grief, the title.
Speaker 3:People I've heard oh you're grieving so you can't connect because you're? No, I don't believe that Because some of my best connections with Zach were when I was in Memphis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly the same, exactly the same. And, krista, I want to give you an opportunity because we got to hear from Martin, but I want to hear you because your word was a little bit different. You talked about consciousness and interconnectedness, but it's that idea of knowing that you and Martin and Zach are are all one, that I guess probably all of us are all one. So I want to, I want to hear you speak to that a little bit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I that kind of falls on the back of Martin's story with the van. You know, he saw him, he shared that with me and that we've had lots of other things between us happen and knowing that that we are never separated, that we are connected, nothing, nothing can separate us. We just think with our brains, these filters, that we're separate. Yeah, not. And when I realized that and understand what, uh well, you can't really understand what consciousness is, because it's such a big, vast array of multitude of things. Yes, but to me, consciousness is that Zach is part of my soul. I'm part of Zach's soul. Yeah, I'm part of Martin's soul. Martin's part of my soul. I'm part of your soul. You're so full of my soul. I'm part of zach's soul. Yeah, I'm part of martin's soul, martin's part of my soul. I'm part of your soul. You're so full of my soul. We are all connected and we are all I call, you know, different soul families yeah but I know that I kind of see soul families as groups.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and knowing um, um, what do you what? I can't think what it's. What's it called the? Um, the medical term, when you have the dots, the circles and the lines on it, um, helix oh, yes, yes, yes, yeah yeah, like a helix yes if I see soul families yeah, you've got your main soul family here. I'm just going to use the example martin, martin, his parents, my parents out here, but we're all connected.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Friends here, but we're all connected so to me. That's how my brain envisions it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:We are all, we're really all one, and, and, and. Knowing that, knowing that I'm going to see Zach again, I know we see him here, but in a different way. Yeah, the knowing, yeah, knowing, that's again that word keeps coming up, but that is what does it mean? Yeah, Knowing we're all connected.
Speaker 1:So beautifully said. Krista, thank you, thank you for that want to help a lot of people oh yeah, you're, we're always fighting culture.
Speaker 4:Culture says you're an individual. Culture says that, um, you've got to do it yourself, um, and it's all me, me, me.
Speaker 4:So cultures always driving this, this individuality yeah, we are all individuals, but we are not separated right but the way culture identifies you as an individual says that you are on your own, you are your own thing, and that's driven in all the time in everything me and everything you hear in life. And so you've got to and you've been trained in that. You know from from being a small child. You know you, you've got to be an individual, you know you've got to make your own way in life. It's all me, me, me, I, I, I right, you've got to challenge that, you know. And this is, this is the other part that we have to be able to do is is accept just everything. Christa just said that we are all interconnected. We are, we have our individuality, but we are not separate, and that is for us. That's what it's about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I may interject another little and this is your time in your story, but I'm going to interject your time and your story, but I'm going to interject another little, kennyism. Because, no, but there's so much about our stories that coincide and I too, my kenny, was that um little guru who had so much wisdom as as a little guy diana can can attest to that and it was that individual and I have the photograph of him when he's about three, four years old, and he had taken all of his Legos and the Lego board and he had created this intricate design that I don't even understand it to this day, but it was all interconnection of pieces and colors and swirls. And he came to me and said Mommy, I want to tell you about this. Oh yeah, honey, what do you want to tell me? This is the puzzle of life. Okay, babe, three year old. Thanks for that. So if anybody wants to see it, I have a puzzle of life you can interpret it.
Speaker 1:But really at the heart of it, it is that very interconnectedness you're talking about that. That was the essence.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, yeah, our boys, oh my gosh, they're pretty amazing, magical, amazing yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So so guys, six, six years into this journey and you've had all I mean stories for days. I know every time I meet with you there's there's new stories and Zach is ever present and you've both done. Whenever I meet anybody who's new on this journey, I tell them about you two, especially you two as a couple, and how you've kind of ridden this ride together, but also in very unique ways. I think you connect very differently with Zach and I would love it if you're willing to share just what have you found. I guess works the best for you to keep that connection with Zach.
Speaker 3:Well, I know what you're going to say you go first, come on.
Speaker 1:I love you guys.
Speaker 3:We love you too. For me, it's slightly different than Martin, where I like that I'm going to say it's not just mediumship, because that's a label Right, to say it's not just mediumship because that's a label right. So it's that working with him, knowing it's him and trusting it's him, yeah, and then when you trust and you get the confirmations on the back of this, yeah, that's what does it for me. However, you get there is fine, because everyone's different. You might get there through meditation. You might get there through mediumship.
Speaker 3:You might get that through just going out for a walk and then sure, just being open, um, but for me it is that's it. Just be up knowing, and you know, you start to hear spirit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And they start to confirm things with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, there's my confirmation. Boom, you know. Yeah, all right, let's keep going. What's happened? And then you might have you know. Something happened like this morning. So I'm going to share a quick story with Martin. I know it's probably, you're good, you're good, okay. So this isn't my story, it's Martin's. But we wake up this morning and again today's the six year transition day. So we think, oh, we're, we're okay, but we're going to go out and eat your blah, blah, blah. So Martin wakes up Very rarely. Do you remember your dreams?
Speaker 3:This is true, I always remember my dreams, but Martin doesn't. So I always share my dreams with him where he never shares them with me.
Speaker 4:I'm a strange.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, so am I I was talking about yours. Oh yeah, fine, I don't want to tell him too. I'll put in a pat-and-sell sometimes. So he wakes up and says Krista, I had a dream visit with Zach this morning. I won't tell the story, I'll let Martin because it's his story. It's brilliant. They were at the go-kart track, but it was all proper racers. So he tells me this story, which I'll let him-.
Speaker 4:No, you don't need to tell the story. Yeah, if you want to later leave it on.
Speaker 3:So then Ella, who we've mentioned that went with us to get the van. We communicate, we talk to her a lot and stuff. She still messages us. She sent us a message this morning, and what first popped up on her Facebook page? And what?
Speaker 4:did it say exactly, so it was the picture of the back of a shirt. Yeah, and this is the first thing that's popped up on a shirt, on her facebook and the the shirt is being worn by somebody. It's the back of the shirt. The back of the shirt says monday, tuesday, wednesday, th Practice qualifying race. In other words, practice Saturdays, qualifying Sundays racing.
Speaker 3:And that's what you do at the race.
Speaker 4:Yes, that's his life.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:That epitomizes the back of the shirt, epitomizes his life. His life as it's continued as well.
Speaker 3:Yes, she sent that over after Martin, just right after Martin had the dream Just gorgeous, just gorgeous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's mute as well. Yes, she sent that over after martin, just right after the dream.
Speaker 3:that's gorgeous, just gorgeous yeah, so it's just going back that's how it works, and that's how it works. Yeah, and it's knowing, trusting and going with it and don't like it. We have this all the time, yeah, and it's so hard not to question, yeah, our human brains, these filters, we have always want us to question everything, yeah, but exactly as you've said.
Speaker 1:If you go with it and don't question, then the validations come. You get more and more and more, and that's just how it works.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so going back to the and I'll stop talking, but going back to very beginning, when you ask why we get so many signs, how we got so many signs and other people might not, it was just, I just said who cares? Yes, if it's not Zach, oh well, and if it is Zach, great. You know, and that's how I get got.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and.
Speaker 3:I always go with it and I think what's the worst is going to happen. It's not going to be Zach and he's going to go score yes, wasn't me. So now he's going to drop something in and then he's going to confirm it with a confirmation yes, so that I like that. Just just, who cares? Who cares?
Speaker 1:Who cares?
Speaker 3:Who cares?
Speaker 4:Who cares? Yeah, I think people use the word skeptic wrong. I don't think they understand the meaning of the word skeptic. That's just an opinion. So when people say a skeptic, then they often mean a naysayer, a denier, quite, the opposite of being open-minded.
Speaker 4:But really, a skeptic is an open-minded person that's prepared to consider everything. They're going to challenge everything. Right, and I'm good, I'm totally good with a proper skeptic. Something's going to challenge everything. Yeah, don't dismiss it. Yeah, right, and because if you do continue as Chris, we all said to accept these signs as what they are, there's nothing wrong with also, in my mind, the way I am, there's nothing wrong with also having an acceptance, but then a challenge to it. Because if you do keep on sort of challenging your acceptance that these signs are real, then you can only come to one conclusion and that is that they're still here. So in my mind, it's okay to challenge, provided that you are challenging in a truly open-minded way, you are prepared to accept the conclusion that you come to. And if you keep looking at it and you keep accepting that these things are happening, then you can only logically come to one conclusion that they're still here.
Speaker 3:That's my take, yeah right, right, there was another. You know get signs. Sorry, diane, I interrupted you, no, no you're good.
Speaker 3:You get signs just all the time. And again, this was another really quick one. I'll throw it out there because I love this one and I think the parents will love it too. It was Mother's Day and it was the first Mother's Day that Zach had been in spirit and it was COVID. So here in the UK, which is is where we live, there was absolutely not a soul out of soul and we were outside here cleaning out the shed we have and all of Zach's stuff we pulled out of the shed something to do sprawled out everywhere because we thought we need to organize this right and it's.
Speaker 3:Everybody knows these days are tough. They just are tough, no matter how much you know, yeah, it's hell it is yeah, but no, you know.
Speaker 3:So I'm stood out there and we went inside. I walked in to get a drink and Martin was stood out there and all of a sudden this thing comes like floating around and we're like what's that Comes floating into? We share a car park with next door, so we have it's a big car park, the house here, and the gates are locked. Nobody could walk in or anything. Martin said oh, krista, I think there's something out there for you from Zach and I'm like what. Go out and have a look. As I walk out, there's a balloon helium balloon big helium balloon floating.
Speaker 3:He pulled it in. I know he did. He pulled it right in and put it right behind our shed and I went around the corner and it says happy mother's day to the best mummy ever. Oh, he's so good it's real.
Speaker 1:I've got the balloon 100% believe you. Of course it's real.
Speaker 3:My point was, that is, I've kept the balloon because you know because it's a gift it's a gift, it's a gift. It is. He's on the other side.
Speaker 2:But he gave me a gift.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't stop.
Speaker 1:No yeah.
Speaker 2:He gets to keep giving you gifts even six years later, without his body, and there's no doubt about that, and the important piece, though, is that you received it.
Speaker 1:You accepted it and received it.
Speaker 3:I'm bawling going, thank you yeah, yeah, you know, and some people get feathers, some people get you know, yeah, I get license plates, some you know things that people get, it's just accepting and yes kenny gave me a diamond yes, that was a good one story for another day, but it is a good one yeah.
Speaker 4:So you see this there's the memories don't stop when they don't have a physical body.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 4:Memories keep coming.
Speaker 2:There's anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hundreds of memories, yeah, and here's the other.
Speaker 4:Take from it. This is just me on my soapbox now. Yeah, I'm sorry so if, if, if Zach had not dispensed with his physical body, then that physical body could be living in Australia now, right, right, I would have. We would have a much more limited communication if David retained his physical body and that physical body. He decided he was going to go put it somewhere else. So it's not the same, but in a way it can be a broader experience.
Speaker 2:I say that all the time. I don't have to call David, I don't have to text him, I just get him now. I don't have to wait for him to respond to his text, you know, at lunchtime or something. So yeah, exactly, there is no response time.
Speaker 3:It's instant. Yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 4:And can we all?
Speaker 1:say out loud too, because a lot of people in my world they ask this all the time. Am I bugging them, though? Am I taking too much of their time? Let's answer that.
Speaker 4:No, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 3:And they're not too busy either. No, they can be in many places at once, and they're not too busy.
Speaker 1:They can be anywhere at all at once. Exactly places at once, and they're not too busy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, anywhere at all, at once, exactly. No, it's difficult because we have to get away from the confines of physicalities. Confines of physicality is I'm doing something so I can't be doing something else. Yeah, that's because, yeah, you're looking to say, but yeah, you dispense with that. If you can just move away from that and, as Chris says, you know, you can be in an infinite number of places all the time it is mind bending. I was just going to say that it's mind blowing, yeah, but without the body?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the body contains us in one place, right, but without it we can be anywhere, so. So OK, let's get back, though, because I do want to hear. Martin, you've shared a bunch of stories. I know Zach comes through you, through to you, in so many different ways, but what is, I guess, if you had to pick your ideal way to connect with Zach? Or you know what works for you the best, do you think?
Speaker 4:OK. So my secret sauce, if you like, if all else fails, is meditation. But it's not meditation sitting doing the arm thing, it's meditation with headphones on, listening to particular sounds, right. So let me just back up on that real quick. So early on, we had stacks of books everywhere, right? So we were trying to figure it out and we had lots of people do this. We had literally columns of books all over the house where we were just trying to absorb knowledge, to try to understand what was going on, and one of the things I bumped into was out-of-body experience, right, and I latched onto that. I latched onto that because I thought, well, if somebody can have an experience without their body, then that means they don't need their body. So if I can have an experience without my body and I know I've had that experience then I also know Zach doesn't need a body to have an experience. So Zach's fine.
Speaker 4:So that was my circle, that was my loop, that was the thought process right, and I scratched around and dug about how to do that and I had.
Speaker 4:It was like the light bulb, edison.
Speaker 4:We had so many failures of trying to achieve this, but there was an organization that we were sort of drawn to, which is a thing called the Monroe Institute, and there was a guy called Bob Monroe who had these things happen naturally, and then he was a radio producer and he worked on these frequencies and these headphones and these we'll call them meditations, but I would call them connection exercises, right, um, and they allow you to change your I'll call it brain state, to allow your mind to go where it needs to go.
Speaker 4:And and that's the shortest way I can policy and when I do them pretty reliably and consistently, then I'm always in a better space. Sometimes I just drift off from doing them for a while, but I don't force them anymore and sometimes that means I stay good and sometimes I dip a little bit, but when I dip I know I can go back to those and I'm back and that is for me that's 100% reliable and the experiences I've had are just awesome, unbelievable, right, you know, and that's my secret sauce for me and as a person that does them as as well, and I've never been a huge meditator, but now working with them in row yes, when the Monroe group, they're amazing yeah you don't have to the thing for me, you don't have to think about it, you don't have to do and they do it for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's what helps me on the back of the horse, sorry, yeah, they, they kind of guide you, but the way that the formulas are done alpha, beta, beta, delta, going on in your mind they just take you and you don't have to do anything and before you know it, you're having these amazing experiences yeah, but you're not actually doing anything, but you are right.
Speaker 4:There's something really cruel about all this right and this. The thing that's really cruel about it is the more desperate we are to connect sometimes, the harder it is to connect yeah, and that's a cruel thing.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah.
Speaker 4:If you can find what doesn't matter what it is but if you can find whatever your secret sources that allows you to connect and allows you to release that desperation, then when the desperation dips a bit, for me I can only speak for myself. For me, when the desperation dips, the connection clarity increases all the time and before you know it, there's no desperation because you don't need to be desperate, because you've got a great relationship that you've understood how to communicate again. But there is this thing you've got to figure we're all individuals but we're all connected. But you've got to figure this way out to get to accept where you are, to accept that desperation but not have that desperation prevent you from hearing and seeing right knowing yeah, so wonderful, so, so wonderful.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this, my friends so if we were to go back in time well before all of these events of your life and the journey that you're on now, and go back to you when you're, say, a kid, a young adolescent, if that kid were to look into and see where you are now and what you're doing now, what do you think they'd say about this journey?
Speaker 3:Don't worry about the small stuff, don't sweat the small stuff because it doesn't matter. Yeah, actually, nothing really matters. That's what I would have told myself, knowing what I know now.
Speaker 1:And I love that. Going back to saying that, yes, absolutely. What do you think that kid would say to you now To me now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's what. That's what I think they'd say.
Speaker 1:They, they, they would say to you also yeah, don't worry about it. That's what I think.
Speaker 3:Nothing matters because we're going to get a little deep here and I wouldn't want anybody to take this the wrong way, but this life's, to me, is a video game and we're just playing a part in a game.
Speaker 3:That's what myself would tell me now yeah, it's you're just playing a part in a play, would tell me now. Yeah, is you're just playing a part in a play? Yeah, don't take life too seriously, even though of course it's hard, and of course we take it seriously because you're going to as a human. But when you can, don't take life too seriously, yeah thank you, krista.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how about you, martin?
Speaker 4:I'm gonna give it a different take. Yeah, whatever comes to you.
Speaker 2:The kid of me, looking at the me today, would say I'm a stranger.
Speaker 4:I am not that person. So that person that was the kid that evolved into who I became, that person stopped being that person when Zach went home.
Speaker 1:I get that I am a different person. I look the same.
Speaker 4:I sound the same, but I'm not the same person.
Speaker 1:No, it's like your very DNA has changed.
Speaker 4:It has, and that is a great thing, yeah, as that is a great thing, yeah. Because that person that I was, I wouldn't particularly want to be around today.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 4:Because that person wasn't, he was all right, yeah. I'm not saying I'm great now, but the person that I was wasn't didn't have any idea what was going on. That guy had his head in the sand and was playing in this game and I'm glad I got my head out of the sand. If I'm honest, yeah, and it's Zach that did that.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and to have to go through that experience, right, and I always hate when people do the whole. Well, you know, things happen for a reason. It's like okay, stop, I didn't need people to die for me to experience this, but there is a very different me than was here five and six years ago. So, yeah, yeah, very interesting. So. Donna should we oh go ahead Krista.
Speaker 3:I think there's something out there Now I might be wrong, so if not, please disregard it but something about the DNA that does change, does change in our systems when we go through such loss that we really aren't the same people. And I read that somewhere and I can't remember where. I read it Like a medical journal, something that shows that our literal DNA does change.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I believe it, I feel it.
Speaker 2:I believe it. Yeah, I think all four of us. It's one of those things kind of like what we're talking about and this connection kind of beyond the physical that many people can't get until they get it, because they're in this experience, right, and and so I think other people could say, oh yeah, no, no, everything's just the same and you know, once you're here it's a very different like that Harry Potter thing, those skeletal horse things I can't see yeah, well even like you don't know until you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's absolutely true yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So should we kind of switch gears a little bit and jump into what we call our rapid fire? Sis, let's do it okay okay, do you? Do you want to ask the first, or do you want me to jump in?
Speaker 1:go for it, sis, go, and we'd love to hear from each of you both yes, both have answers like yes, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So again, these are as fast as you want them to be, don't have to think a lot about them. And they're not like you know, they're not going to change their world for anybody, but they're fun. So if you guys had a song kind of like that walk-in song you know you're walking up to the pitcher's mound, or you know going up to do your big TED talk, what?
Speaker 1:is your big, big ted talk. What is the walk-in song that would?
Speaker 2:play while you're walking in. What is your walking song?
Speaker 3:country roads I was just gonna. I was gonna say the same, both of you country, yeah okay, oh, my god, I love that song yes, me too deeply oh beautiful. Okay, put it together we should we could have done that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, love it. Oh, I'm asking what book changed you?
Speaker 3:Oh gosh, lots, lots of books. I don't know if I can nail it down to one so hard.
Speaker 1:Say a couple, three, say throw in a few titles, yeah.
Speaker 3:I know there's one that we share. It's called Reunions by Bob Monroe. That's an amazing one. Raymond Moody excuse me, sorry, I brainstormed. Monroe, raymond Moody, reunions. That's an amazing one. What about you?
Speaker 4:Adventures Out of the.
Speaker 3:Body by Bob Monroe.
Speaker 4:That's an amazing one.
Speaker 1:Okay, what about you? Adventures Out of the.
Speaker 2:Body. Oh, that's a good one, bob Monroe, bob Monroe.
Speaker 3:That's just so many, so many.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think I've read the second one, not the first one, so I'll have to look that up. Yeah, yeah, and I think I only read the second one because of you, martin, because I think you recommended it in one of our, our Friday chats. Ok, what movie lives rent free in your brain? What movie can you watch again and again, and again, oh, gosh OK, the Proposal oh fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just watching a couple scenes of that last night, and it must be a little taste or something. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 2:Something to make you smile.
Speaker 3:Yeah, answers with the grandma who's doing a show. She's so cute, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, yeah, yeah, good. How about you, martin?
Speaker 1:The matrix oh how fitting is that oh?
Speaker 4:there's another universe point in this. So for a long time, for about a year or so, that DVD the Matrix was sitting in my laptop and I would travel all over the country and I kept forgetting way before 15 years before Zach would know. And this matrix DVD sat in that laptop, I kid you not. For over a year I must've watched that damn film about 50 times, because everything went away the only thing I could watch was the matrix, so but even so, I think there's a reason for that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Preparing you, yeah, preparing you. Oh, everything it's preparing you. Yeah, it's preparing me, yeah, it's preparing you.
Speaker 1:Oh boy.
Speaker 2:Do I understand now? And David loved that movie and any time it would come on. If you're flipping channels, he would stop. I never really enjoyed it until after he passed. Then I started watching and going. Oh, now I get some of this. This is starting to make sense to me.
Speaker 4:But it wasn't before.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:All right. So what did you love doing as a kid that you love doing to this day?
Speaker 4:Oh gosh, I'm still going to say cooking.
Speaker 1:That's good, because I'm going to say eating. You two were made for each other. It is a perfect match.
Speaker 2:I love that. I love that Very good. So what in the world, what in your world, I guess is lighting you up right now?
Speaker 3:What gives you light, gives you joy. Well, I'd say lots of things, but narrow it down. Doing these kind of chats, like with you gals, this is amazing. It gives us joy because we get to share our story and share Zach with the world, being together and knowing Zach's with us each day. When I wake up each day, I do wake up a lot in the morning and go God, I'm still here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we do Still here.
Speaker 3:I understand that too, but then knowing that Zach's here and wondering what today's going to be hold with him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 4:Experimenting today's going to be hold with him. Yeah, beautiful, yeah, um experimenting, yeah, yeah. So we, we, we're, we're in a room that we call the psychomantium.
Speaker 4:We call it that because that's from the book reunions by Raymond Moody, and he made one. I won't go into the details, it's a good read. It's only a little book, it's a good read, I think it is anyway, and we made our own. And, as a result of that, this is the space that we come into to work on our connections, because we have them all the time, but we work on it in here, yes. And as a result, because we have them all the time, but we work on in here, yes, and as we work on in here, we also record what goes on in here in many, many different ways and as a result of that, we can see some things in the physical that you can't see through your naked eye, and we've experienced things that are we'll use the word unbelievable. And we only do that not because we're trying to do something, but because we don't know what we're doing and we're just playing, trying to do stuff.
Speaker 3:Well, we don't. We think we're the puppets.
Speaker 4:So Zach, kenny, david, all the loved ones that are part of Zach's house they're guiding us every step of the way. So we think, oh that, the loved ones that are part of Zach's house, yeah, every step of the way. So we think, oh, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:It wasn't our idea.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, I love that, though your experiments are pretty amazing.
Speaker 3:So good.
Speaker 1:So cool. All right, what color is hope?
Speaker 4:One, two, three Purple. Oh, there you go.
Speaker 3:Yay, I like that. Um what does hope sound like one, two, three zach. Oh, this is gonna sell I thought we'd do it together.
Speaker 1:Oh, I like that it does, that is hope yeah yeah, yeah sorry, I let you down on that one.
Speaker 3:No, you're right you did not.
Speaker 1:I have to go back, though I have to go back. So the one, two, three purple is the color of hope. Why is that?
Speaker 4:you go we'll say it together no, go ahead, just say it why is purple.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why, why is purple?
Speaker 3:the hope, of hope, yeah, why why?
Speaker 4:is purple. Why is purple the color of hope?
Speaker 3:Oh, because it was Zach's favorite color.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I found a. We went through all of Zach's stuff and it was awesome. It was another thing Zach wrote about mom, like mom, you know, mom thing. And he was very young. And it says what's your mom, my mom's favorite color is purple. Oh thing, when he was very young. And it says what's your mom, my mom's favorite color is purple, oh and I thought oh my god, yeah and
Speaker 1:that's been his color not for nothing kenny's color purple and I can see a purple light behind your head.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, there is does have the purple.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness you guys Connected, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So let's ask so connectedness or interconnectedness is complete that statement? Connectedness is or interconnectedness is Everything.
Speaker 3:Sorry, Martin.
Speaker 2:Can I say that Everything you guys are the best. You guys do belong together.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:We'll wrap it up with hope. Hope is what Hope is.
Speaker 3:Hope is is knowing that we live on and we live on together, that we never are separated. But the biggest thing is hope is knowing Hope equals knowing. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Amen to that. You too, you cannot Thank you, and I'm sorry, I'm sorry Martin's saying it's okay, now, I'm so used to you all are just agreeing on everything.
Speaker 4:I would say hope is oxygen.
Speaker 2:Oh, I like that too.
Speaker 4:Right, so without without hope.
Speaker 3:That's yeah.
Speaker 4:I couldn't.
Speaker 3:No yeah.
Speaker 4:So hope is my answer.
Speaker 2:I like that For that answer. That's a good answer.
Speaker 1:That is good. Yeah, I'm going to take that one with me. So you two, thank you for taking your time and just sharing so freely of your hearts, your story. Zach, thank you for being here with us, because we know you are and we feel you here.
Speaker 3:And he and David yes.
Speaker 2:And David, I want to make sure, too, that whoever is listening knows where they can find you. Of course, I know where they can find you, but do you want to share Facebook, your website, anything else that you want people to know where they can find you?
Speaker 3:Website's the best way to find us really, Cause I've got Facebook, but I'm not.
Speaker 2:we do have it on facebook yeah, but and and the website is zach's house, uk almost okay zach's house.
Speaker 4:Zach's house z-a-c-h-s. Yes, yes, yeah dot org dot uk okay, thank you, dot org, dot uk.
Speaker 2:I knew that uk was, knew that you can and dot orguk yes.
Speaker 3:Perfect, just stuff. If anybody have to reach out to us if they just want to have a look.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Even if it helps one person Awesome.
Speaker 2:Yes, and, and I will share. It's Information about Zach's house. It's events going on at zach's house, it's resources, it's the blog that y'all keep. It's. It's even stories from members of zach's house and the amazing connections they're having with their own children and loved ones, which is pretty amazing. So a great resource.
Speaker 3:By the way, we haven't put any new blogs on for a long time a few months we've been so they happen when we've been too busy.
Speaker 4:yes, time, a few months.
Speaker 2:We've been so busy. Yes, yeah, yeah, but we're not going to be so busy now, yeah.
Speaker 2:No Wonderful and although it started because of Zach, thank you so much. I know that it's not solely focused on helping those who have lost children. It's any loss at all, any grief that people need kind of help navigating. I think you guys have been a great resource for me and so many other people, and I just want to say thank you so much for being here, cause I enjoy all of my time with you and I know I don't always get to join on Friday, so this is like I got a little special time with you, which is really nice. Yeah, and and and. Thank you for sharing today, um, you know, this day with zach and with us, because I know it's a day that you three could just be together and to to welcome soul sisters and with you on on this day is is you yeah?
Speaker 2:So yeah, good, anything else. So much, thank you.
Speaker 4:Thank you, we will talk soon.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. Thank you, guys, bye guys, good night.
Speaker 3:I know it's late for you. Bye, bye, oh, it's not late.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's late for me, for you, but okay, it's late for me for you, but okay, we'll see you guys soon.
Speaker 1:See you later.
Speaker 2:Bye-bye, see you later. Thanks for joining us today on Soul Sisteries.
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